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Hello,
adding also a MULTIPLIER as price operator (and also weight) in attribute we can change, for example, a quantity of product (box):
in this way customers can choose 5kg or 10kg boxes, and leave the price interacts with others price attributes.

(the best way should be a price "calculations" to create a formula to put calculations in correct order, but with a simple multiplier and a divider we can handle prices generation however better than now)

Virtuemart adopt a very useful solution allowing the following operators:

+
-
+%
-%

it is exactly what Phoca Cart needs to be usable also for "kg" packages and other infinite possibilities!

Currently i can't move to Phoca ONLY for this reason

Hi, thank you for your idea, if I understand it correctly, the attribute + / - (price) should even include +% / -%



I think, this can be doable, if the % is taken from basic price. But not e.g. in Advanced stock management (where combination of attributes is assigned to only one fixed price)

Jan

Yes Jan: in other words in this way you can choose to modify a price also by PERCENTAGE, not only by a FIXED value.
We use different box weight, so with a PERCENTAGE option i can put a percentage value to add (or to subtract).

Example:
- base price for 5kg box: 5€
- attribute PRICE modifier/option for 8kg: +%60 (PERCENTAGE VALUE)
- attribute WEIGHT modifier/option for 8kg: +%60 (PERCENTAGE VALUE)


I use multiple attributes combinations, and in this way i can achieve a 100% powerful price control!
For instance: box 8kg (+60% price & +60% weight) but small version (-4% price & 0% weight)


I ask some friends and tells me others shops uses also percentages price modifier, but i can't use it with my Phoca Cart : i cannot create my products dinamically and need to create multiple identical products only for weight box differentiation (Orange box 5kg, Orange box 8kg with identical photos and identical description data, makes lot of confusion).

In this days i'm discovering Phoca Cart as a GREAT ecommerce, but this missing feature make me huge difference to move completely to my Phoca Chart, it's quite an main function for this kind of products.

(i'm trying also to keep the main product photo in chart instead the variant photos, because i'm using attribute photos as beautiful icons of the boxes with imageselect i will try some overrides to keep my MAIN photo in checkout)

The question here is, should this be done in core or should be there some plugin for specific multiplier feature.

There are still many questions, e.g.:

- if there will be percentage + or - is this sufficient, it still does not work with multiple parameters as such parameters can be in conflict each other

- is this not possible to solve it with Advanced stock management - there you set fixed price or stock - but for each combination, so you have it under full controll - each combination has specific price



Jan

Maybe creating an option like "fractionable product" item (for products sold by kg and similar, etc.) out by any current stocking rules, handling this type of product stocks in a completely different way excluded by the standard/advanced stocking rules (maybe with a simple total stocking by unit --kg, liters, units, etc.--).

it still does not work with multiple parameters as such parameters can be in conflict each other

Do you mean multiple Attributes?
If this, i believe multiple attributes can handle well the price:

Making a standard price 5€ for 5kg box of standard dimension apples
Attribute 1 = 5kg or 10kg
Attribute 2 = Standard sized Apples or Small sized Apples

Example:
I want to buy 10kg box of small sized apples

--- product item elaboration ---
ATTRIBUTE 1 modifiers: 10kg apple box -> PRICE = ([main price] +% 100)*** and WEIGHT=([main weight] +% 100)
ATTRIBUTE 2 modifiers: Small dimension apples -> PRICE = ([main price] -% 6) and WEIGHT= ([main weight] + 0)
*** here i can also lower the price/kg --due to bigger box different cost-- with a lower percentage

--- results ---
RESULT PRICE: 5€ + ATTRIBUTE 1 price modifier + ATTRIBUTE 2 price modifier = 9,4€
RESULT WEIGHT: 5kg + ATTRIBUTE 1 weight modifier + ATTRIBUTE 2 weight modifier = 10kg

What do you think about Jan?

I think, this

RESULT PRICE: 5€ + ATTRIBUTE 1 price modifier + ATTRIBUTE 2 price modifier = 9,4€
RESULT WEIGHT: 5kg + ATTRIBUTE 1 weight modifier + ATTRIBUTE 2 weight modifier = 10kg

can be doable with Advanced Stock and Price Management. You just set the price for each combination:

Attribute 1 = 5kg or 10kg
Attribute 2 = Standard sized Apples or Small sized Apples

:

5kg Standard size ... X EUR
5kg Small size ... X EUR
10kg Standard size X EUR
10kg Small size ... X EUR



Jan

I will try ASAP Jan!
The weight is also updated?

The weight is set fixed for each variant. So it does not count weight.

Jan

I would also like to set a % to the original price if selected.
In my case I am looking to offer 2 items at a slightly reduced price if they buy 2.
I am not looking to offer discount on multibuy.